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Comedienne and raconteur Margaret Cho has been filming a new show for Lifetime called Drop Dead Diva in Peachtree City. The show is the story of a vapid model who dies, reborn in the body (and with the mind) of a brilliant plus-size lawyer and has to cope with being treated differently. Cho plays the main character’s assistant on the show, and we talked to her about the show, Atlanta traffic, the lack of minorities in Peachtree City, and racist Southern accents.

Margaret Cho: Hi! How are you?
Lucas: I’ve got this recording thing and it makes me sound like a robot, I think.
Cho: You sound kind of like a robot!
Lucas: I’m not a monotone talker, but it sounds that way…
Cho: That’s okay!
Lucas: If you want to make the interview better maybe you can pretend you’re talking to a robot.
Cho: A hyper-intelligent robot, android being?
Lucas: From the future, if you want.
Cho: Ooooh.
Lucas: From France. There was a band I knew who said they were from France of the future.
Cho: That’s like the coolest; that’s like the band Air.
Lucas: Daft Punk? They’re French, right?
Cho: They’re French.
Lucas: And they wear robot heads!
Lucas: Anyway, Drive A Faster Car is an Atlanta-based blog, so we wanted to ask you about some Atlanta stuff. You’ve got a new show called Drop Dead Diva, and it’s filming in Peachtree City. What are your impressions of it, what with the golf carts and the strange retirement communities.
Cho: Well, I have yet to see any people of color. I don’t where they are! I’m the only one, apparently. No, I did see some people of color! I did go into a Chinese restaurant, and they were so excited to see me that they asked me to go play cards with them! They were super-excited.
Lucas: So no black people… no Hispanics?
Cho: No! I don’t know where they are. I don’t know what they did with them. Where are they? What’s going on? [laughs] I’m the whole ethnic minority here. And, you know, I don’t think there are any gay people here, which is a little disturbing to me, too. But then, there are plenty of people of color and plenty of gay people in Atlanta proper. So, I find myself there every weekend, if not during the week as well.
Lucas: It certainly has a large African-American population, and, take away Miami, I’d say it’s probably the gayest city in the Southeast. Growing up in nearby Alabama, I remember coming to Atlanta and being astounded by how gay it was, being a kid. People around me used to call it the San Francisco of the Southeast.
Cho: It is incredibly gay. And it’s also a very multicultural, very diverse city. Thankfully, I still have Atlanta, and I’ve been going there. I’ve going to Mary’s, El Myr… El Myr is sort of my hangout. Also, the Porter a lot. And going to shows. Lots of shows at Lenny’s… I’ve been going to so many shows. In the last couple of weeks I’ve been to the Kills, and Jane’s Addiction, and Nine Inch Nails, which was crazy. Any show. If it’s Hall and Oates or Coldplay, I’m down.
Lucas: Did you go see Hall and Oates?
Cho: [laughs] I made it almost all the way there, but I got caught in a… hmmm… I can’t really explain it, but you know the way traffic is. Sometimes you can’t do anything, and you just shut down. If I get in that kind of traffic, I just shut down, and I should be used to it, but I’m not.
Lucas: Atlanta traffic is particularly soul-crippling. You’re from San Francisco… I got into a traffic jam on the 101 there, but it was kind of a nice. I was looking out over the Mission District, and it was interesting and even pretty. In Atlanta traffic, you’re often looking at the ugliest parts of the city. It’s soul-crushing.
Cho: It is! It’s really soul-crushing; it’s really hard. Sometimes you just can’t deal with it, and you turn around and go farther out of the Perimeter because it’s too much.
Lucas: So no Hall and Oates.
Cho: Yeah, I missed Hall and Oates because of the traffic. I just couldn’t take it. And I feel like in the future — or in the France of the future? — I could take my car and park it in a garage and sit there, and it would be the same as sitting on 85.
Lucas: I grew up off 85, and I can honestly say there’s not a nice part of it anywhere.
Cho: It’s very utilitarian, and it does what it’s supposed to, which is clog up the whole city.
Lucas: You travel a lot for your comedy tours, do you think Atlanta traffic is different or worse?
Cho: LA traffic is bad, but I like it okay because I have my car. I don’t have my car here. I have a horrible rental and I despise it. It’s cheap, and it’s just not a good car. I think what you’re sitting in has a lot to do with how you experience it. In LA, my car has a great stereo, and I love to listen to music, which is a joyful thing for me, so I don’t mind the traffic so much. But here, I don’t have anything in my car, and it’s awful.
Lucas: Speaking of traffic, or lack thereof, have you ridden in a golf cart yet in Peachtree City?
Cho: I have seen them quite a lot. They are everywhere here. They are prevalent, the number one choice for transportation. I have not ridden in one myself. I have not explored that possibility because I actually have a car, and I want to go to Atlanta, so I’m not going to drive to Atlanta in a golf cart.
Lucas: What’s weird about Peachtree City is that there are black people and other minorities and I’m sure gay people there, but they seem to be hidden on this other side of the town. It’s like you have to access them a different way.
Cho: I haven’t seen any evidence of them. I don’t know where they are.
Lucas: I’m conflicted about the golf carts because they are symbols of affluent white people and yet they’re environmentally friendly because they’re electric. In the end, I decided they were weird when I saw everybody pulling up to a Chili’s in one.
Cho: They have preferential parking next to the handicap spaces. But they’re not as bad as the Segways. There are quite a lot of them here. And that’s disturbing to me. I had a boyfriend who had one, and he was really proud of it, and, well, yeah, we broke up. It just looks so dorky and stupid. It looks like you’re delivering a speech from a podium, but you’re also in motion. It’s horrible.
Lucas: So, the TV show, Drop Dead Diva, is a body-switching type of thing, except not with Fred Savage or Judge Reinhold. A model passes away and is reincarnated as a lawyer, is that correct?
Cho: Yeah.
Lucas: I have a sci-fi nerdy question for you. Is this a new person or has this person been around? Do they share personalities?
Cho: The dominant personality is the model personality, but she still has the knowledge of the lawyer in her brain. It’s like she has a hard drive of all of the lawyer’s information. She has the body and mental capacity of the lawyer.
Lucas: The show hasn’t debuted yet, so obviously I haven’t watched it, but the crux of it is that they use the term “plus-size” for the main character’s new body. The press materials talk about it in terms of “she’s brainy… and plus-sized!” as if that could never happen in the real world!
Cho: I know, but I think [the show] does a great job of showing that women are really valued in our society based on they how they look, and if they look a certain way, there’s a higher value placed on that. It’s a very interesting dissection of the way women are viewed and how value is placed on it.
Lucas: I assume with your politics and books and comedy works that you wouldn’t sign onto a show that took a facile look on this sort of issue. I’m kind of a fan that you use the term “zaftig,” right?
Cho: Uh-huh!
Lucas: I’m kind of a fan of women like that, and when I went and looked at pictures of the star Brooke Elliott on the web, I thought she was very pretty.
Cho: She’s just beautiful. I think of her as beautiful, and I think people are going to fall in love with her. People assign values on people based on how they look, and we’re going to take a look at that.
Lucas: You just have to read message boards on Dlisted or Perez Hilton, and you see the kind of vitriol spewed out at people who are 10 pounds overweight or something.
Cho: I feel really bad that we have that kind of consciousness and that people are so judgmental about it. Why do these standards have to apply to people? It’s weird.
Lucas: You’re playing the assistant, the “Moneypenny” character.
Cho: It’s cool. It’s a great part. I give her assignments for the week. I think that in future scripts, she’s going to be allowed to get a lot wilder than we initially thought.
Lucas: It’s a long commitment, shooting a show like this. Was it hard to make that decision?
Cho: Yeah, we’re shooting for five months. It’s quite a long shoot. I love it. I’m very happy to do it. I love the show, and I love the role. I think it’s a really great thing to not have to carry the whole show, to be able to be a supporter. I love my strong presence there. To me, it’s a little bit of a break. It gives me a chance to work on my acting and have fun. I loved the script and I just jumped right into it because I thought it was such a great project. It’s nice to see real people on TV, and I think it’s going to be very big.
Lucas: Atlanta… what do you think your favorite thing is about it?
Cho: I like the porch-sitting. That to me is a lot of fun. It’s a big benefit to be able to sit out on your porch. There’s a game that we play. We sit out on a friend’s porch – he lives right off of Little Five, off of Euclid – and we watch people walk by every day and we yell out names at them to try to guess their names. We have about 10 seconds to do it for each person. If we get it right, usually they’ll come up and say hi. It’s called The Trick Game. We try to find tricks that way!
Lucas: Is it like Wheel of Fortune? Instead of R S T L N E, do you start off with James or John?
Cho: I start real basic, but then I go into real Southern names like Trey and Travis. I usually win.
Lucas: Are the people friendly when you get their names right?
Cho: Yes, because they think you know them from somewhere.
Lucas: Do they recognize you?
Cho: Sometimes yeah.
Lucas: I notice that you twittered/tweeted? that you thought biscuits in the South were good.
Cho: So good…
Lucas: … but that Southern accents reminded you of racism.
Cho: Yes.
Lucas: We’re not all racists, really, but I’ve lived in the South for 34 years, and when I want to make someone sound racist or dumb, I affect a Southern accent.
Cho: I know plenty of non-racists! The kind of accent I’m talking about is the one you see on Channel 2, on fishing shows and stuff, where you cannot even understand what people are saying. They are so country. It’s like another dialect, a different language. Only when I Channel 2.
Lucas: Why do you have this association?
Cho: I think it’s from being a city dweller my whole life and the stereotypes we all have about the South.
Lucas: I swear we’re not all racist.
Cho: It’s only the ones where I can’t understand. I assume they are talking about racism.
Lucas: Those fishing shows are just a coded language of transferring secret messages between KKK members.
Cho: That’s what is!
Lucas: I’ve met as many racists in Michigan and the North as I have down here… well maybe not.
Cho: Oh, they’re everywhere, but the stereotype is Southern.
Lucas: You have a real world-class bigot on your hands in Carrie Prejean.
Cho: Oh, she’s horrible.
Lucas: She went on James Dobson’s show that Satan tempted her but then she made the right decision to honor God and Jesus or something.
Cho: I hate that she is representing California and that’s really disgusting to me.
Lucas: People think California is all San Francisco and Los Angeles.
Cho: It’s not. It’s not. And that’s why Prop 8 passed.
Lucas: One more thing: I was wondering what your plans are for your collaboration with Girlyman. Are y’all going to release stuff soon?
Cho: I am working on a really great song with Girlyman. Will most likely be playing with them at some point this summer at Eddie’s Attic…
Lucas: Is it just for fun or do you see music as something that you could be moving towards?
Cho: It is for fun, but I will be releasing a record next year of all the music I have put out so far.

Drop Dead Diva premieres on Lifetime on July 12 at 9 PM.



28 Responses to “Margaret Cho’s “Drop Dead Diva” Down South”

  1. dsc Says:

    So nice…cheap shots directed at a perfectly nice AND diverse town for the sake of comedy. Yeah…that was funny.

  2. twp Says:

    Is she blind?

  3. Anne Stephens Says:

    I have lived in peachtree city for 5 years and I love it!! It is a safe and beautiful place to raise my two children. It has been voted the 8th best place in america to live again. You say there is no black people here maybe that is why there is no murders or violet crimes here. I grew up in macon, ga. and it is mostly black. I had to deal with my car broken into 3 times, my g-parents car stolen and never recovered, my mother, brother, sister and g-parents house broken into with witnesses or fingerprints proving young black males. I had to go to school with mostly black people and it was horrible. I saw and heard on a daily basis black students misbehave and disrespect white teachers and blame it on the color of their skin if they dared to try and punish them. Those same students go into a black teachers room and were perfect angels. I could go on about growing up as a white minority in a black city, but I'm going to do a little sterotyping of my own. Where would you want to live, a safe crime free beautiful city of white people, a violent crime filled black city or maybe hollywood full of alcoholic, drug addicted Betty Ford patient celebrities with sexually transmitted diseases??

  4. kayce. Says:

    yeah, i HATE those “violet” crimes… i much prefer taupe or chartreuse crime sprees.

    *rolls eyes*

    if that commenter is indicative of the intellect found in peachtree city, than i'd have to say: no wonder it's a small town ~ who'd want to live w/ that asshole as their neighbor?

  5. Tessa Horehled Says:

    Hi Anne,

    Thanks for reading! (I'm assuming you aren't here just to get on a soapbox on this particular post.)

    I am white and grew up attending public schools in Buckhead that were predominantly black for elementary, middle and highschool. Through my experiences both at these schools and in Buckhead and the rest of Atlanta city proper, I learned tolerance and respect for others regardless of race, religion or age.

    I would have to look up the source to give you accurate numbers, but white men actually take the cake on sexually transmitted diseases despite urban legend. Since we're discussing in relation to grade school, the *greater majority* of friends and classmates that acquired an STD were white girls at Pace, Woodward Academy, Galloway, Paideia, etc. These are the cream of the crop institutions for education in the City of Atlanta in wealthy neighborhoods with well-to-do students and families. And they were the ones perpetuating these diseases?

    1. Don't stereotype.
    2. Be well-informed before publicly making such a bold statement, especially one that will offend others. Only being partially informed is a form of ignorance.
    3. Be smart and aware. It will increase your safety in any situation.

  6. Tessa Horehled Says:

    About as funny as hiding behind a screen name and not owning your opinion?

  7. Anne Stephens Says:

    Hi Tessa,
    I think you missunderstood my comment. I was trying to say that all celebrities must have sexually transmitted diseases because they are constantly changing partners. The interview was sterotyping all southern white people as stupid and racist, so I was sterotyping too. I am glad you commented on the whole tolerant thing. I was raised to love everyone no matter the color of their skin or their religion. My parents made sure I was in church everytime the doors were opened and I never heard and ugly word toward anyother race of people. My first best friend was a black girl and we spent everyday together from kindergarden to high school, but she started getting picked on by other blacks for being a white girl’s friend. When a black teacher told her, right in front of me, that she needed to “hang with her own kind” she stop being my friend. I thought only whites are suppose to be racist, right?? Why is it that only whites are told they have to be tolerant? Did this interview sound like they were being tolerant? They called white people from the south stupid and racist. Then they picked on Carrie Prejean and call her horrible because she dares to believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. That must mean that Obama, Biden and Hillary are horrible because they believe the same thing, right? Well, I think they are horrible, but for many other reasons. They wouldn’t dare go after their messiah so they go after a white christian girl instead. I don’t know about you but I find it harder and harder everyday to be tolerant!!!

  8. Tessa Horehled Says:

    1. I was trying to say that all celebrities must have sexually transmitted diseases because they are constantly changing partners.
    This is a stereotype.

    2. Margaret Cho is a comedian.

    3. Why is it that only whites are told they have to be tolerant?
    I can’t relate to your individual perspective but growing up and still to date, I hear it in every direction. Not just to whites.

    4. Living in the South especially, there is a lot of leftover anger and prejudice dating back to the Civil Rights Movement. Historically, this was still relatively recent. I find this is especially prominent among the “Old South” who have resided here for at least a few generations.

    5. Then they picked on Carrie Prejean and call her horrible because she dares to believe that marriage is between a man and a woman.
    That is a matter of personal belief. It is however a bit naive to maintain the belief that homosexuals “choose” to be homosexual and prejudice to not grant them all of the rights given by the Constitution.

    6. I don’t know about you but I find it harder and harder everyday to be tolerant!!!
    Life is hard. You have to persevere. How can you expect anyone to be tolerant of you when you can’t be tolerant of others?

  9. blackdominoes Says:

    ‘the violet crimes’ is a great name for a band.

  10. MelDianne Says:

    Anne,
    You are wasting your time with these people who think we can live as equals in peace and harmony. It will never happen as long as blacks think that they are owed something from their ancestors being slaves. They should be glad they were brought over here from Africa where they could still be living in mud huts eating mush and living with AIDS ( the number 1 killer in Africa). I too grew up in a predominately white neighborhood where I could walk to the store up the street, to my friends house or to school. Our air conditioning broke and we slept with the windows open. Blacks started moving in and whites quickly moved out because crime started rising. My mom abandoned her house and moved into an apartment on “the good” side of town. Which will not be that way for long because they will find it. Now, when you go to my mom’s house (which has been broken into 3 times) in the middle of the day you are afraid of gangs. As soon as you go in the door you lock all the dead bolts. I moved to the country when I got married to get far away fom the blacks, but I’m afraid sooner or later they will find my quiet street and destroy it too. Recently a tornado came through the city and white people were cleaning up the debri in their yards while the blacks grilled in the front yard waiting for the governtment to come clean it up. Be glad you live in Peachtree City and don’t let them in!!! I find it very sad that believing in the bible and God to be called “niave” and “old-fashioned”. Yes, God tells us to “Love our neighbor”, but there is only so much you can give and they just take and take and never give in return. I am so proud of Carrie Prejean for standing up for her beliefs! I can only hope my daughter will do the same!!

  11. Lucas Jensen Says:

    Wow! Totally agreed. Yoink! It’s mine now, you hear! Mine!

  12. Anonymous Says:

    Wow…I’m embarrassed to think that you live in my town Anne. I was raised in Atlanta and then moved to beautiful Peachtree City. We do have crime in our town by the way. I served on a grand jury a couple of years ago. You would be shocked to know what goes on around us. It’s just not on the nightly news. Did you hear about the senior citizen that was hog tied, raped and set on fire? The perpetrator was a white male. Our police force caught him in a high speed chase. He was killed during the chase. My neighborhood is actually rather diverse but perhaps people of color are just afraid to live near you.

  13. Lucas Jensen Says:

    Listen to yourself.

  14. kayce. Says:

    no lucas, no… that’s the problem: this person has listened to themselves for far too long. there are some people i want to hog tie and read books to: their ability to see and empathize w/ other perspectives is ~ at best ~ non-existent and at worst willful ignorance (“i moved to the country when i got married to get far away from the blacks”)… this bigot def fits into that category.

    as i told tessa via twitter: esp loves the toss-in of carrie prejean… sure, she’s a bigot, too, but i doubt even SHE’D co-op this ‘tarded worldview.

  15. Gabi Giarrano Says:

    If black people are the problem, than why are most of the most notorious, sick, and twisted serial killers white males? Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacy. And what was the name of the man who blew up a building in Oklahoma City killing inncent people including children- Oh that’s right, Timothy Mcveigh, a white man. And the man who brutally murdered 17 people with acts including “rape, torture, dismemberment, necrophilia and cannibalism”? I believe that was a white man named Jeffrey Dahmer.

    The fact that you seem to actually believe what you say, it makes me want to throw up repeatedly. You cannot make an assumption on an entire race based on your obviously limited exposure. Educate yourself. It would be easy for me to assume that you are just some dumb southern bigot and racist, but I choose to give you the benefit of the doubt, let me say though, you’re not giving me much hope.

    I’m sorry, are you a follower of Hitler? I bet you think he did a great thing huh? People are individuals, and regardless of what one person of a particular gender, race, nationality, or else does, you cannot make that the basis for your entire view. If that were true than every priest I met would be a pedophile and rapist and every white male would be a serial killer.

    Margaret Cho is a comedian, she was making her own observations about a town that does not have a signifigant African American or LGBT presence. You cannot deny that, I’ve been to Peachtree City. She’s right when she says they are in the cities and counties surrounding Peachtree City. I worked a neighborhood right outside of Peachtree City when I worked for the AJC in sales. There was a signifigant population of African American families in this particular neighborhood, as well as many other non-white families. The neighborhood was quiet, clean, affluent and everyone was friendly, even to go so far as to offer me food and water. Let’s just say that NEVER happens in the affluent white neighborhoods. The next day I worked two neighborhoods inside Peachtree City that were predominantly white. These neighborhoods were trashed, people were rude and crass. That was MY experience. You don’t see me making generalizations do you?

    How about you stop using this blog to spread your bigotry and hate. That’s the last thing this world, this city, or this country needs.

  16. Manita Says:

    We are so stupid (now politically correct) in this country. We have swallowed the Hollywood stories of life in America and the reporters prejudiced opinions of life in this country for far too long. Truth doesn’t seem to matter anymore. We aren’t allowed to speak it for fear of offending someone.(unless they are white) Since the President showed his true colors, this may change. Obama is a black bigot. If black people (God made us all) can’t hear the truth about their communities, they will never do better. Just continue to blame their choices on whites. NO ONE IS DISINFRANCHISED IN AMERICA.
    Everyone has an opportunity for a free education which is the secret to getting ahead. Some choose to squander that right while spending their days in the streets violating others rights and then want something for free because of their color. It has been close to 150 years since the Civil War and close to 50 years of “rights”. How long does it take for people to better themselves? This is America. It is up to the individual. I desperately want the black community to change. It would be better for future generations of all people. “Black” and “White” divide us. Why can’t we just be Americans?
    I don’t think the young ladies are speaking of every black person nor are they eliminating whites that do wrong. They are frustrated as a lot of people are that so many young blacks today are criminals that constantly violate the rights of others and make people feel unsafe in their communities. If you don’t live in a community that is predominately black with gangs then you can’t speak to them. Ride through East Macon, South Macon, West Macon and now Bloomfield (given over to blacks in the last few years) Even the black citizens that are trying to do right have a problem with this. They go into houses day or night. One man was shot at 9:30 a.m. by a burglar and he shot the burglar.There were 3 of them. Stores must put up bars over their doors and windows. Cars are stolen from carports while people sleep inside the house. Driveby shootings every day of the week.
    Gabi when you get through throwing up perhaps you and Cho could rent a place in one of these communities. These young ladies were speaking to you of reality. What better way to experience that kind of fear.
    Don’t get me wrong, not all black people are like this anymore than all white people are bad because of those you mentioned. For some reason, crime seems to follow these communities as they have spread throughout our city. It is sad.People have had to leave their homes of 30, 40 or 50 years to feel safe and enjoy their American dream that they have worked all their lives for.
    It is never naive to believe God or believe in Him. Absolutely no one has been able to prove that homosexuality isn’t a matter of choice. Men may have an opinion but that is all it is. ( to believe them is naive.)I choose to believe God as he will be my final judge and He has told us how he will judge the matter and no one and no law has the right to tell me that I can’t believe Him.

  17. CJ Says:

    A couple of news flashes for Manita:

    1. About that whole gay thing – You are entitled to your opinion, but you might also consider that everyone else might not bow to a God who would cast a man into an eternal pit of hellfire because he like to put he balls on another man's chin. I'm not a Christian, nor am I an atheist – I prefer to believe that God is omnipotent enough to know a good, kind person when he/she sees one – regardless of whether or not said person enjoys fucking other dudes in the cornhole.
    2. About the race thing – you're right, black people suck. But, as many of these posts prove…white people fucking suck too. Guess what – we're all dicks. I pride myself in being an equal opportunity hater – I hate all materialistic, judgmental, inconsiderate fuckers, regardless of skin color or propensity towards gay sex.
    3. In the south, we are bombarded with black-on-white racism in the urban areas and white-on-black racism in the 'burbs. I can honestly understand why southern blacks and whites can't get along – most of them are assholes, on both sides.
    4. What about all the Mexican and Asian dickheads we have here? You don't have a problem with them? Seriously, let's spread the hate around here, folks.
    5. I live in Edgewood. That's the fucking goddamn ghetto. Three shootings, half-dozen break-ins, and a dead suicide victim in the park…all in the past 2 weeks. I fucking hate it and want to move. But sadly, I can't think of a single decent place in this country that won't have any black thugs or white redneck cunts. I just can't move to the burbs and be surrounded by redneck racists who think that a night of “culture” is hitting up the local Chili's. And I'm sorry, but I've been to East Macon, and it is a goddamn resort compared to where I live. So get off your high horse. Oh, and as a matter of fact, Gabi drove me home one night last week, and she knows full well what kind of cracktown I live in. And she was perfectly at ease – not out of naivety, but rather out of the practiced vigilance that comes from living in these types of 'hoods.
    6. God, I could just bitch about this all day.
    7. I wish I could move to the country somewhere too. Not to escape the blacks OR to escape the whites – but rather to escape from judgmental douchebags. Like you.

  18. CJ Says:

    Forgive the typos above – I was working in a hurry. We'll call it “angry fingers syndrome.”

  19. CJ Says:

    You’re funny. ;)

    You see, the difference between me and you is that you judge people based on group traits – religion, sexuality, race, color. I judge people on their individual assholiness. I guess I’d just rather hang out with a well-educated and tolerant lesbian than an ignorant intolerant heterosexual. And I’m not saying that all white people or all suburbanites are ignorant or intolerant – it just seems like most of the ones who have internet access are.

    And I’m afraid you have a bit of a misunderstanding regarding tax distribution – you’re a bit off if you think that all of the things you mentioned are paid for by state tax revenue… And I have lived in the burbs – in fact, the first house that I owned was in Gwinnett County. Gotta tell ya though, that squeaky-clean white paradise was just a bit too lame for me – there’s only so many times one can visit the Mall of Georgia without feeling like there might be something more out there…

    I honestly feel sorry for you – we have different belief systems, and that is totally cool by me. I’m just sad that you would judge me so harshly and closemindedly when I feel that you are free to believe whatever you want without fear of judgment. I would never judge a Christian for their beliefs – UNLESS they tell me that my alternate beliefs are wrong. Then I will instantly judge them for the intolerant self-righteous ass that they have thus been proven.

    Ooooh oooh – here’s something that will REALLY chap your virgin asshole: I used to live in San Francisco! I nearly turned gay just from being around so many of them!!! I’ve never felt so safe as I did when I lived there though – their crime rate is teeny compared to Atlanta. Oooh, that brings up an interesting quagmire though – would you rather live in San Francisco where there is hardly any crime but you’d be surrounded by gays? Or in say, Detroit – where there is silly high crime but far fewer gays? Hmmmm…. :)

  20. Gabi Giarrano Says:

    I used to live in Kirkwood across from a crack house. I currently live in midtown about 1 block from piedmont park where a man was stabbed to death and break ins and thievery are prevalent. There is crime all around me. I don’t feel any safer than when I lived in historic marietta. There was just as much crime there. In fact I had two neighbors murder their families when I was growing up, and I lived in a nice middle class neighborhood. Don’t talk to me like I don’t know what I’m talking about. I choose to believe that it’s not black people causing all this crime, I choose to not feed into the fear and bigotry of people too stupid to not see that the real problem is our society and how it is run. Just like CJ said, there are stupid, dickhead criminals of all races.

  21. Gabi Giarrano Says:

    Newsflash for you;
    All of us that live in the Atlanta proper and make an honest living, pay those taxes too. I bet a good bit of the people in the “burbs” skip out on their taxes, probably just as many as anywhere else in the GODDAMN country.

    As for the “burbs” being decent;

    Growing up in a VERY affluent area of Marietta I can tell you that the drug use, promiscuity, crime, and general bad behavior, not to mention so many abortions you could populate a town with them, were mainly from the richest, most christian, bible thumping children.

    Your viewpoint is so narrow-minded it isn’t even worth trying to talk to you. I at least take the time to get to know people, situations, and facts, before I make a judgment on a situation. I am by NO MEANS narrowing my viewpoint to say that everyone in the city is awesome and everyone in the burbs sucks, people are individuals, and that is the point you fail to see. NO MATTER what issue you are speaking of, nothing can ever be so black and white, pardon the pun, to blame on a particular race or set of people.

  22. Charles Cates Says:

    I live in the city and pay taxes. What are they going toward if the suburbs are building my roads, sidewalks, etc? I also request if only suburban money is going toward education that mine be thrown in the till because we are obviously failing all races in this manner.

  23. Manita Says:

    Newsflash for you . Yes! I am entitled to my opinion and God is entitled to His judgment. He sent his only son to die that men might stop living like the filth you described so ably. Man isn't capable of being “good” and “kind” enough on his own.Good and kind won't cover a multitude of sins. I feel so sorry for you obviously surrounded by and caught up in the filth you described. Until you have lived in the “burbs”and worked hard to create a decent lifestyle you need to stop judging those that do. What makes you any better than any other bigot? Those in the burbs provide the rest with tax dollars that build all the things that they appreciate so much they spend time tearing them down like city parks. They build your roads, pave your sidewalks, pay your medicaid bills, provide police and fire protection, give food to the hungry, provide jobs, educate your children, and I could go on and on. Talk about bitching. You don't know where to start .

  24. Manita Says:

    I did not say that the people in the surburbs were the only taxpayers. Why get off on a tangent about that? I was talking about them because they were the ones being unfairly maligned by being called “rednecks” etc. Many “rednecks” are good people. Actually not all people in the surburbs or “country” could be called “rednecks”. You get me completely wrong. I don’t hate people for any reason. I hate the crimes that they choose to commit. I have been a victim far too many times. CJ’s ranting and raving is a sad commentary as to what we have turned too much of our “free” nation we were blessed with into. We make a mistake when we think that we must accept wrong in order to love someone. I can love a person but hate his behavior. God does.
    I speak about a crime riddled community from experience. I was once able to walk the streets freely without fear and my children could ride their bikes from one street to another and walk to school. Now, I am uneasy in my car in broad daylight. I can no longer live in my home of 35 years.(my American dream that I worked and sacrificed for). In the last year I have had two doors kicked in, one window broken into 3 times and a tool shed broken into 3 times. A neighbor was shot by a burglar at 9:30 in the morning. Another neighbor had a gun pulled on him when he took out the trash, was forced into his home and robbed. My daughter’s house was broken into and ransacked while they were on vacation. My Father’s car was stolen twice from under his carport while he slept. When did this neighborhood change? When they built a housing project. Call me judgmental or whatever you want but truth is truth. I choose not to stay. Give me Peachtree City any day.

  25. CJ Says:

    Dude – I totally get what you’re saying. Crime is shitty, and it is definitely on the rise. I also agree that poverty (read: housing projects) breeds crime and destitution. I agree completely that I don’t feel as safe as I once did in Atlanta, either in the perimeter or out. I also understand how easy it is to draw spurious conclusions based on what you see with your own eyes.

    Where I disagree however is in your assertion that its all the fault of black people. The sad fact is that due to many factors there are more poor black people in Atlanta than poor whites; I daresay that the opposite is likely true for the more rural areas, but I have no stats to back that up. I think it is a cop-out to point at race as the reason for the rise in crime, that’s all. If there were not a single black person in Atlanta, there would still be poor people – and there would still be crime. You may disagree, but black people are not biologically predisposed to be criminals – they are products of their upbringing just like everyone else.

    Looking at crime in metro Atlanta and then drawing the conclusion that black people are criminals – that’s like going to southern Alabama and concluding that white people are all illiterate.

    I think we agree on a good many things – but I just get irritated when people place blame for bad shit in the wrong place. Its not because of skin color that crimes get committed – its because of a myriad of socioeconomic factors. It is indeed unfortunate that it becomes easier and easier all the time to make broad generalizations based upon the vicious circle of action-media-public perception-action that we all have crammed down our throats every day. Let’s blame our shitball society, politicians, greed, moral decay, etc for all the bad shit – not one race of people.

  26. beastiedarling Says:

    It's unfortunate that the racist crap is an issue, but my two cents worth won't make that disappear, so I'm steppin over the poo and moving on to better: Margaret Cho is da bomb and I love seeing her on DDD. I wish I had been able to attend the Girlyman gig at Eddie's Attic, but this bad dog works most nights, so that was a no go. I hope to run in to Margaret in Little 5 sometime…or anywhere for that matter, and if there's anything we can do to make her time here in ATL more enjoyable, just let me know!

  27. Bombchell - in ATL Says:

    what a hilarious interview, she’s pretty funny!! I like her character a lot on the show.

  28. Bombchell - in ATL Says:

    what a hilarious interview, she's pretty funny!! I like her character a lot on the show.

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